RIP fallenbrethrenofdarkness

Exactly. And even if you do receive professional help, it doesn't always work, and sometimes hurts you more than it helps you. I certainly know this for a fact, so I do feel for Brethren. I just know that his case must have been more severe than mine in that department. I'm letting you all know, it is NOT weak to feel suicidal, and it is NOT weak to commit suicide. It's desperation, and it's not something that is easily controlled, by any means. Those who can overcome it have a stronger will than any other person.

proffesional help you mean psychoterapheds and so on? they just suck! another way how make money. another way where to go to not very smart human and get gain. they make bullshit like "5 forms of family" damn it... im best psychoterapist for myself.

Some of us aren't comfortable talking to anyone about it, though, and there's not much friends and family can do except be there. It's an inner-struggle. And yes Adam, I mean therapists. Not all of them are bad, you sound just like my father. Psychology is a real thing, but yes, I'm not professional and can tell you many things about yourself that you might not know. And really... it's the same as musicians. You provide for people, but all in all, many just do it because it's more money in their pockets. Music is better, though.

man, i talk from what i know. and as far as i know psychologists and all these fuckers... they are cheap meat who dont do anything except wasting time of talking how bad life you have and make money on it.

And I've been going to various ones for over a year, and I will not lie when I say they have helped - somewhat. It's not like they only talk to you. Some people actually HAVE good intentions and care about helping others, making money off of it is a plus. Everyone does something for a living.

lucky you.

What? Was that supposed to offend me? Lol.

no, im just happy for you that they helped you.

Psychologists are important!
And living with the attitude 'they are not helping me, but their wallet' is wrong -.-

They never fixed my problems, Adam, I said the only helped me a very little bit. They completely ignore my OCD, which is my worst one, and it's fucking bullshit, because they WASTE MY TIME with their stupid talk about my father. So really, are they helping me? No. And I've been to more than one. They all talk about the same things over and over...

Sweetfan, if its wrong for you, then let it be wrong for you. that doesnt mean that its wrong for everyone just because you think so. i say what i face and all. they suck and dont do any work. i can say so, because i had experience with them pretty often. maybe its hard to do work with me, but its their job and problem.

Yes, it is wrong for me. And stop accusing me of something. You say what you face and I say what I face, okay?!
I am not your fucking girlfriend who you say what you want.

It was my opinion and I stick to it.

i think you lost your brain while you were writing that. you should re-read your previous post, because after that, i could say same what you said now.

guys... shhh... stay on topic and dont offend one another, okay?!

Do we still need this topic? I don't think so. I close it. You know you can always request a reopening.